MsgId: *high_strangeness(9)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:01:38 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
Hello, friends! Our guest tonight is the controversial Erik Beckjord, curator of San Francisco new UFO, Bigfoot & Loch Ness Monster Museum. Welcome, Erik! First, tell us where the museum is located.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(11)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:04:11 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.44
Hello folks, fresh from the UFO EXPO West, SF, I am here to tell you that the UFO,BIGFOOT & Loch Ness Monster museum is located in SF's north beach area, at 709 Union St. We also have email at ufobfmuseum@value.net, a number of email forums at Beckjord@transbay.net, and a web site for the museum and for crop cirles at http://pwp.value.net/ufomus/
MsgId: *high_strangeness(12)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:05:56 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
What are your hours, and is there any admission fee? Are you in the local phonebook by that name, BTW?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(15)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:10:39 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.44
Our hours are about 2-6 daily, during the start up phase, and can be 12-8pm, depending on the day and work. Days are all days except Monday. Those who want to be sure we are here can call 415-974-4339. The admission charge will be $3. when we are pretty much done, but for a few weeks will be only $1 to compensate for the mess.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(14)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:09:27 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
I'm curious about a lot of things--beginning with what kind of experience it takes to qualify one for curating a UFO and Monster museum?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(19)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:16:09 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.44
Basically, anyone can open up anything, if they pay the rent. The same goes for making UFO movies for tv, or theatres. But, my quals, as such, are that I am (wow) a MUFON Field Investigator, have been involved in bigfoot, ufo, crop circles research, alien photo analysis, paranormal picture taking, lecturing at TREAT,UFO Expo West, various Whole earth Expos, Tim Beckely's and Jim Mosleley's conferences, and others. Five loch Ness Expeditions, four Crop Circles UK exped., 250 Bigfoot expeditions, 50 ufo expeditions including four to AREA 51( OUTSIDE!), TO Lancaster,CA, (Antelope Valley), and more. Plus having taken many films and stills and videos of all these goodies.Most recent escapade was to be the still photographer on the Dr. Leir implant shoot, for which MUFON never gave me a front page credit.. Sniff..... MsgId: *high_strangeness(16)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:11:36 EST 1996
From: guest At: 207.7.35.45
Have you ever seen a ufo??
MsgId: *high_strangeness(18)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:14:12 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
You're asking me if I ever seen a UFO? Not a classical flying saucer, no, but a thing or two I couldn't readily explain. I did see the Loch Ness Monster once, or what passes for it in the popular imagination. But why UFOs and monsters? Is there any connection?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(23)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:20:54 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.44
I gather people are also asking Dennis Stacy, the moderator, questions....Anyway, I've seen ufos, mostly at Area 51 and the Antelope Valley, and in Wiltshire England over crop circles land, and have filmed some of them. I cannot prove they are ufos, but they do not appear to be standard flying aircraft such as fighter jets or Boeing 737s.,etc. Nor helicopters.
The connection between monsters and ufos is thart I feel that many ufos seem to be alive, and are "shape-shifters". So, also, are many of the monsters.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(22)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:20:13 EST 1996
From: guest At: 208.8.132.13
Erik: Did ufo bring the Walla Walla Bigfoot in 1982? vo
MsgId: *high_strangeness(25)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:23:32 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.44
I do not know if a ufo brought the 1982 Walla Walla BF, but I was there soon after, measuring the Tiger Trail Tracks and had the USFS make a weight test. Results - BF was 5000 bs and therefore paranormal, excessive and impossible weight for a standard flesh and blood critter.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(21)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:19:12 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
As I understand it, you're in the Museum now. Assume I'm a virtual visitor. What's the first thing I'll see when I walk in the door, after the cash register?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(27)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:29:24 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
Have you been abducted in mid-type?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(28)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:32:43 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
yes. had long message. got server error.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(29)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:33:53 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
My loong description got dumped. Makes me wonder if the MIBs are at it again, or if I should make short messages...?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(30)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:34:43 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
For the uninitiated, Erik once appeared on the David Letterman (or was it Johnny Carson) Show with what was supposed to be a specimen of Big Foot poop. Is that on display, by any chance?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(32)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:36:32 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
Letterman played that segment in two different years. The BF fecal matter was we think real, but it got roasted in the Mailu fire of 1993.But to the exhibits: In the BF section, we feature the Public Domain Patterson Bigfoot Film stills, track casts from Walla Walla, from Bluff Creek, from Bossberg, and then we have stills from my own shots of a BF that I did not see by a creek in the high Sierras (where ufo machinery rumbles by night), shots from Marion Schubert at same place, the Idaho 1972 Salmon creek photo, enlargements by Paul Freeman (controversial) nothing by Crook, nor Marx nor Wallace.
We've also got paranormal photos of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson (after their deaths, and at Brentwood condo), and CROP CIRCLES!!!!!!!!!!! And el Chupacabras!
MsgId: *high_strangeness(37)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:46:08 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
I think it's probably _la_ Chupacabra (singular), but never mind ... What do you have in terms of Nessie?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(38)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:46:37 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
Excuse my lousy Spanish... soon hope to have hairs from Dr. Cope Shellhorn of La Chupacabra.Re Nessie, we want the report by Dennis of his sighting, please send, and we have the Suergeon's photo, stills by Mrs. Robt. Rines of two nessies, still by Jennifer Bruce Self, a set of stils from my own 16mm color film, soon stills from the Raynor Film, which we have, (1968) stills by Alex Crosbie analyzed by Bruce Maccabee,( Shot with my camera), and a great still of a ghost-monster shot by Bob Rines in super 8mm that he did not realize he had.....!
MsgId: *high_strangeness(35)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:42:57 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
What are your future plans for the Museum? Do you plan to sponsor Museum expeditions?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(39)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:49:50 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
We are planning more expedtions to area 51, (about the time of the jan convention in Nevada - ) and a Nessie expedition, and a crop circles 97 expedition. Also local BF expeditions, and a chase in SF Bay of SDF Sassy, whicyhh has been photographed by two twin guys. Also ufos on Mt Tam.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(40)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:50:11 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
Rines didn't know he *had* the still? You said you didn't see your Bigfoot at the time you supposedly photographed it, either. How does this happen?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(41)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:53:02 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
As many ufologists know, many people who get ufo photos, as an example, often do not see the ufo. Other times, others do. The same happens with Bigfoot. And Nessie. Some see and film it, others don't see, and film it by chance or instinct. Selective availability on the part of the phenomenon.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(43)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:56:04 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
Erik, we want to wish you well with your Museum and any upcoming expeditions. I understand your Grand Opening was on Halloween. How many visitors have you had since then?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(44)
Date: Tue Nov 19 22:57:24 EST 1996
From: ufomuseum At: 207.33.94.52
About 300.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(47)
Date: Tue Nov 19 23:00:11 EST 1996
From: OMNI At: 206.127.4.78
Erik, congratulations on your Grand Opening, and happy hunting! Thanks to everyone else for joining us. I think we both enjoyed it, and hope you did, too. Good night, Erik. Thanks for taking the time to speak with us.
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